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Sometimes Michelle and JoyGenea talk about one thing. Sometimes they talk about more. Usually, when they record an episode, they have two or three other conversations right before and right after off-mike. Well, this week, those conversations were recorded.

This episode of If These Heels Could Talk is actually about two different topics: an idea to recognize a lifetime of the kind of quiet leadership practiced by owner-operators and how to react if an employee makes a personal choice that could have massive negative impact on your company. Enjoy!